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Symonds fishing for respect

Soulberry has put together a sort of tribute to Andrew Symonds:

People I have interacted with before on BBC's boards might recall of those positive views of mine. They might recall my support for Symonds' inclusion into the test team way back before he was actually inducted, and my reasons thereof. They might recall my awe at his all-skills prowess in the one-day game.

Things changed, Symonds became Symo for some and Roy for others. Andrew began trying to men something to everyone. And dissociation is a dark confusing world. But all this I have gone over in earlier posts and is not the focus of this post.

I just wanted to record my appreciation for Symonds, one of the most complete one-day players ever....and who could have become a decent test player if the devil times hadn't descended upon when he finally had the chance. can you ever forget his WC innings and the all-round performance in that.

The links he provides are very interesting. Meanwhile, The Age carries a story that Symonds falling enthusiasm for cricket can be dated to Bhajji abuse scandal:

To this day Symonds has not forgiven Cricket Australia for what transpired in an Adelaide federal courtroom eight months ago. It was there that he and three teammates were convinced to downgrade an initial charge of racial slander against Harbhajan Singh to one of verbal abuse, a ploy the Australians were advised would help ensure a long suspension after the Monkey-gate scandal, but one that eventually resulted in Harbhajan escaping sanction.

Harbhajan's reprieve infuriated Symonds, who felt abandoned by administrators he believed were more interested in kow-towing to India than protecting their own. Team sources say Symonds has bluntly refused CA's attempts to resolve the issue, and the lingering resentment has fuelled his deteriorating attitude to work.

Those close to the 33-year-old do not believe he will retire, but there is grave concern about the way he feels.

And the Times of India has a pair of editorials on the basic question behind all this that could have been asked of any number of wonderful cricket players. Does team discipline trump individual greatness?

The team management felt that Symonds failed to recognise, and adhere, to the team ethic so central to its success. Australia's success in the recent past is remarkable when we contrast it with that of other teams. Team India, despite boasting of some of the world's finest batsmen, have flattered to deceive. And Brian Lara's brilliance with bat did little to help the cause of the West Indies. Simply put, individual talent need not necessarily translate into success for a team unless the team has a clear plan and will to achieve its goals.

The alternative point of view, that greatness is better than rules:

Cricket, like most other sports, is not your usual nine-to-five job. At the highest level, sport is akin to art. Like artists, sportspersons cannot always be bound by rules and manuals. Too much discipline could stifle creativity and kill sporting genius. The trick is to get the balance right so that a great athlete has adequate freedom but at the same time doesn't fritter away his talent.

Meanwhile, Jrod reckons Symonds is really in trouble now:

Dean Jones, he of the self proclaimed legend status, is on his side.

Never a good sign in an argument.

Comments

 

dcretro said:

While it is to be recognized that sportspersons need to be given their space as practitioners of an art form at the highest level, I think that this view comes from a superficial point of view of sportsmen. The question is, that while talent is an undeniable attribute and plays a large part in an athlete's success, it often undermines the great value that practice and discipline that makes a good/talented sportsperson great. Would the prodigiously gifted Symonds have been the same without discipline and hard work? I don't think so.  

September 5, 2008 5:02 AM
 

dcsiva said:

Ottayan: True enough. But it's also clear that his Board didn't give him much respect over the Bhajji issue, don't you think?

dcretro: I concur. It's an unexplored relationship to be sure. Psychologists have been arguing about the 10,000 hours "rule" for years now. See, for example, this New York Times article:

query.nytimes.com/.../fullpage.html

September 5, 2008 9:40 AM
 

namya said:

DC,

What do you mean by 'respect'? Linking indiscipline to some unrelated event in the past is complete hogwash. Is Roy a time traveller who knew how CA would treat him in the future 'monkeygate' and hence got drunk at Cardiff? His past indiscretions are well documented and I will not reinvent the wheel.

I would argue that Bhajji slapped Sree bcos he never sent him a support letter during 'monkey gate'.. And he harboured a grouse.. I have no comments to make about Roy's send off but trying to blame an unrelated event for what is basically a psychological problem is a bit extreme no?

Also take a relook at Justice Hansen's verdict and his take on what he would have done even if it were proved that bajji uttered 'those' words.

cheers

September 5, 2008 8:41 PM
 

dcsiva said:

Hey namya,

We're probably in agreement with each other.

I think that Symonds has a problem (whether it's psychological or not, I can't say) and that he needs a lot of help.

The real question is who is going to give him that help?

September 6, 2008 8:05 AM

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